"i bought the item on monday and received an e-mail on thursday that they was back ordered untill july 10th and when i ask for a refund he said to do it with pay-pal and wait for the 30days or else wait until he sent it to me and hung up on me WoW is this anyway to be "

"On April 30 2008, I purchased a Trion Air Bear air cleaner from Climate Doctors on ebay. Ten were listed; I bought one. It was paid for immediately by Paypal.

On May 1, I was emailed by Climate Doctors and told the item was out of stock until mid-June. 'Chris' asked - what did I want to do? I queried back - can you wait list this, and ship as soon as they come in? The answer was yes. I further queried - There is no way this purchase can be lost in paperwork, can it? 'Chris' assured me that this was impossible. I accepted the ship delay. As it later developed, this was a major error.

I expected shipment in mid-June. To me, that means around the 15th. At the 26th I had not received the air cleaner, I had not been contacted about why they failed to ship, I had not been contacted to ask if I was willing to wait longer, and I had not been offered a refund.

At that point, I filed negative feedback on ebay, opened a dispute (just days short of the deadline, as it turned out) and tried to open a Paypal dispute. Paypal said, in effect, 'Too late. Should have done this earlier. We'll pass this along to the seller, though.' Well, I couldn't reasonably do it earlier; I expected Climate Doctors to ship as promised.

The next morning I received a call from 'Chris' -

'Chris' - You opened a Paypal dispute with us.
Me - Yes, I did. You didn't ship.
'Chris' - We said we'd ship in June.
Me - No, you said they'd be back in stock in mid-June, and I'd be at the top of the wait list.
'Chris' - It's still June.
Me - It's well past mid-June. Either ship it or refund it.
'Chris' - We don't have to respond to a Paypal dispute for 30 days. You can wait for your refund.
Me - Thank you for your 'assistance.' (And hung up.)

So, I waited six weeks, and two weeks past promised delivery, and I didn't have my air cleaner, and now 'Chris' is making me wait for my refund.

The dispute disappeared from Paypal's site the next day.

It's strange that Climate Doctors listed not one, but ten items for sale that they didn't have in stock."