"13 weeks later(now 12/31/2008)and still no magazines.I think this web-site is a scam.Because they charge your credit card to pay-pal.Well pay pay will only dispute orders up to 45 days.Groovymagazines.com said the standard for shipping is 8-12 weeks.So i waited 12 weeks and started to worry.I then contacted my credit card company for a dispute.I also tried to contact groovymagazines.com using my on personal email,several phone calls to them(which their message center said they would contact me back and never did).Also their on line chat person is never on line.I also left several messages there without success.This web-site is bad news.So beware

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"Over 10 weeks after I paid for a magazine renewal--and only after I prodded them with over 6 for an explanation--they inform me that their "clearing house" does not deal with the magazine in question, and they refunded my money. Outrageous. Beware."